tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7825108661591119300.post2305966311481702154..comments2023-05-09T05:59:26.281-05:00Comments on The Guy's Guide to Feminism: The Polanski/Brown CorollaryTylerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00247978820702805174noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7825108661591119300.post-25196343602987653892009-11-23T16:15:03.499-06:002009-11-23T16:15:03.499-06:00Thanks for following this thought through to the e...Thanks for following this thought through to the end. I think the hate person/love art ratio is a good way to break down the thought process in deciding whether art is still enjoyable when the artist is not.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10374748947003163168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7825108661591119300.post-3431914272110816732009-11-21T15:33:40.888-06:002009-11-21T15:33:40.888-06:00Ahh and after taking a second glance I want to add...Ahh and after taking a second glance I want to add this: just as there are bad R&B singers who don't beat their partners, there are women-beaters who listen to good music. So I guess that takes me back to my original point. It's tempting to link bad art & bad behavior but ultimately futile, I believe...Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03018355164187481759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7825108661591119300.post-41758186571411635192009-11-20T18:51:47.427-06:002009-11-20T18:51:47.427-06:00So first I want to make sure I get the idea that&#...So first I want to make sure I get the idea that's being introduced.<br />Chris Brown's music does not justify forgiveness because it is not art. But since Roman Polanski makes art, the jury is still out on whether his product justifies forgiveness?<br />I think that it is tempting to associate Chris Brown's personality with his non-art because both are worthy of scorn, just as it is tempting to distance Roman Polanski from his art because, while his behavior is worthy of scorn, his art is not.<br />I think that in both cases, the product and the producer are equally separate.<br />Roman Polanski forces many artistic-minded individuals to make a choice: Would I rather watch Rosemary's Baby or would I rather be consistent with the values I hold? I myself would rather watch Rosemary's Baby. Avoiding the movie does not un-drug and un-penetrate the teenager he violated 30 years ago, so, if I feel like watching Mia Farrow get knocked up by Satan, I do.<br />I don't like Chris Brown but I defend him in the same way. <br />Since his music is bad and so is his behavior, it is tempting to believe that the two are interconnected. But there are mediocre R&B singers who don't bludgeon their paramours. With or without Chris Brown, there will be bad R&B music and there will be abuse.<br />Let's see. Do I have a conclusion?<br />Yes. I guess my conclusion has two parts.<br />1) Good art doesn't justify bad behavior and bad behavior doesn't vindicate hatred of art. I don't see it as a matter of "Does this art justify its creators bad personality?" I see it as a choice of "Do I hate this individual more, or do I like their art more?" I refuse to listen to Charles Manson's songs not because of an abstract moral stance but because my emotional discomfort outweighs my curiosity. If he were getting royalties from the music, I'd avoid it out of a moral stance.<br />2)I guess that when it comes to pure exposure to art rather than monetary consumption of it, I don't see any difference between Chris Brown and Roman Polanski. I think that, without their personal lives to inform judgment, Polanski would still be a good director and Chris Brown's music would be just as lame.<br />And I just noticed there's a whole article about Polanski. I'm going to read it.Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03018355164187481759noreply@blogger.com